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Justin Trudeau condemns violence at Hindu temple near Toronto​

Local police in the city of Brampton, roughly 50 km (30 miles) northwest of Toronto, said they had deployed heavily outside the Hindu Sabha Mandir in order to maintain calm during a protest​

Updated - November 04, 2024 11:50 am IST - Toronto, Canada
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Violence at Hindu Sabha Mandir in Brampton. Screengrab: Chandra Arya via @AryaCanada/X

Violence at Hindu Sabha Mandir in Brampton. Screengrab: Chandra Arya via @AryaCanada/X
Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned as "unacceptable" violence at a Hindu temple near Toronto on Sunday (November 3, 2024), following skirmishes blamed by some leaders on Sikh activists.


Local police in the city of Brampton, roughly 50 km (30 miles) northwest of Toronto, said they had deployed heavily outside the Hindu Sabha Mandir in order to maintain calm during a protest.


A spokesman for the Peel Regional Police told AFP that no arrests had been made. Police have also declined to assign blame for the reported violence.






Did not want to blow up India ties: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
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"The acts of violence at the Hindu Sabha Mandir in Brampton today are unacceptable. Every Canadian has the right to practice their faith freely and safely," Mr. Trudeau wrote on X.


A federal lawmaker and member of Trudeau's Liberal Party, Chandra Arya, blamed the incident on "Khalistanis," a reference to supporters of the fringe separatist movement for an independent Sikh homeland in India's Punjab state.

Relations between Canada and India have nosedived after Ottawa accused the Indian Government of orchestrating the 2023 killing in Vancouver of 45-year-old naturalized Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a prominent Khalistan activist.


Beyond Nijjar's killing, Canada has accused India of directing a broad campaign targeting Sikh activists on Canadian soil, which Ottawa says has included intimidation, threats and violence.

"A red line has been crossed by Canadian Khalistani extremists today," Mr. Arya, who is Hindu, posted on X.

PM Trudeau ruined relations between India, Canada for votes: Former Punjab CM Amarinder Singh
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"The attack by Khalistanis on the Hindu-Canadian devotees inside the premises of the Hindu Sabha temple in Brampton shows how deep and brazen has Khalistani violent extremism has become in Canada," he said.


Video circulating on social media appears to show individuals carrying yellow Khalistan flags clashing with a rival group, including people holding Indian flags. There were also isolated fist fights, videos show.


Mr. Trudeau charged the Government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi with violating Canadian sovereignty.

India has rejected the allegations.

Delhi and Ottawa earlier this month each expelled the other's ambassador and other senior diplomats.


Published - November 04, 2024 09:41 am IST
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Partly true. Many Indian migrants are there in many countries and they run their Medial sector, IT Sector and Education sector. If you allow criminals on the name of Asylum, you will pay the price. Anyway, Canada is a gone case. One can determine his/her gender by declaration. Too much BS on the name of individual freedom. Drugs is rampant. Idiot like Trudeau is on helm and asylum to Khalistanis make it a gone case totally.
 
He has a point. Canada only went public after consulting with the five eyes. At the same time, the US released a name of an Indian agent operating in the west.

India is getting isolated here and appears to be far more of a lost case.

India has passed the stage where this Isolation sort of things may apply. No country has the guts to Isolate India. Germany, US, UK etc. have fallen in line after some gimmick.
 
Canada in a weird way is serving an important role.

It is largely unimportant to India and hence India in turn is using it to send the larger West an important unmistakable message.

And the shrieks are due to the fact that the message has gotten across.
 
It's both ways. By hosting Sikh separatists, Canada is clearly asking for trouble. I mean the West invaded Afghanistan by the under pretexts that Osama Bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks since the Taliban refused to hand him over.

So they cannot complain. Because as far as the Bharati government sees it, these Sikh separatists undermine Bharati sovereignty.

You do not understand. India just claims, it does not provide proof. You cannot simply claim someone to be a terrorist and get them extradited. India suppresses its minorities at home but it cannot do it abroad. India is much like Israel in this case.
 
It's both ways. By hosting Sikh separatists, Canada is clearly asking for trouble. I mean the West invaded Afghanistan by the under pretexts that Osama Bin Laden committed the 9/11 attacks since the Taliban refused to hand him over.

So they cannot complain. Because as far as the Bharati government sees it, these Sikh separatists undermine Bharati sovereignty.

That's the problem. Sikhs abroad are no threat to Indian society. Everything India does hits them in the back. Everything Indians do that made others hate them is their own social construct, it's a social revolution that they built against themselves because of their own attitudes. Afghans and Iranians use to love Indians. Indians online made them hate them due to their anti-Gaza and anti-Muslim cause, you should be able to see this, Thunder! Moroccans watched Indian Bollywood daily, now they are boycotting it, because of what? Because of Indian attitude. The Gulf locals are now considering not hiring their Indians due to their anti Islamic hatred.

You must think big, Thunder. You are stuck in this secular box. Khalistan was of no threat to India but India went ahead and killed a few dissidents abroad. This only caused more backlack from the five eyes, countries who use to have good relations with India!

India will fall due to Modi's regime the same way Israel will fall due to the Zionist mindset.
 
That's the problem. Sikhs abroad are no threat to Indian society. Everything India does hits them in the back. Everything Indians do that made others hate them is their own social construct, it's a social revolution that they built against themselves because of their own attitudes. Afghans and Iranians use to love Indians. Indians online made them hate them due to their anti-Gaza and anti-Muslim cause, you should be able to see this, Thunder! Moroccans watched Indian Bollywood daily, now they are boycotting it, because of what? Because of Indian attitude. The Gulf locals are now considering not hiring their Indians due to their anti Islamic hatred.

You must think big, Thunder. You are stuck in this secular box. Khalistan was of no threat to India but India went ahead and killed a few dissidents abroad. This only caused more backlack from the five eyes, countries who use to have good relations with India!

India will fall due to Modi's regime the same way Israel will fall due to the Zionist mindset.

Don't know about Afghans (your claim) but I do not think Iranians ever had too much love lost for Indians beyond the perfunctory cultural and civilisational sound bites.

And trust me, they look at Pakistanis as Indian Hindu converts.

So ... ya, apni dekho.
 
That's the problem. Sikhs abroad are no threat to Indian society. Everything India does hits them in the back. Everything Indians do that made others hate them is their own social construct, it's a social revolution that they built against themselves because of their own attitudes. Afghans and Iranians use to love Indians. Indians online made them hate them due to their anti-Gaza and anti-Muslim cause, you should be able to see this, Thunder! Moroccans watched Indian Bollywood daily, now they are boycotting it, because of what? Because of Indian attitude. The Gulf locals are now considering not hiring their Indians due to their anti Islamic hatred.

You must think big, Thunder. You are stuck in this secular box. Khalistan was of no threat to India but India went ahead and killed a few dissidents abroad. This only caused more backlack from the five eyes, countries who use to have good relations with India!

India will fall due to Modi's regime the same way Israel will fall due to the Zionist mindset.

So far as Afghan is concerned, they still loves Indians and more than ever before. So far as Iran is concern, the bluffing what Iranian radical regime has done is unacceptable. They hang Sunni Clerics on crain, they kill their girl for not wearing Burkha or Hizab and lectures India on Muslim rights which they themselves have never respected. In Retaliation of that, Indians might have posted something about Iran. I believe that we need to make a distinction so as to ensure that while criticizing any government of country, we should ensure that we do not criticize that country as a whole.
In earlier post on issue of Israel vs Iran, I had written that Israel should ensure that Irani people does not get harmed in attack as Iranian people are not as anti-Israel as Iranian totalitarian government. So far as myself is concern, I am opposed to this Mullah government in Iran while I love Iranian people.
 
Well the other shoe now fell. Australia is broaching India undermining Canadian sovereignty now. Just like I predicted a week ago. All these countries speak in one voice. Canada is not alone in the West.

Australian foreign minister raises allegations of India targeting Sikhs in Canada​

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India’s External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, left, and Australia’s Foreign Minister Penny Wong meet at Parliament House in Canberra, Australia, Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. (Mick Tsikas/AAP Image via AP)


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Activists of United Hindu Front, a right wing group reacting to Canada’s allegation that Indian Home Minister Amit Shah ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada, hold placards during a protest in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)
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Activists of United Hindu Front, a right wing group reacting to Canada’s allegation that Indian Home Minister Amit Shah ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada, hold placards during a protest in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)
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Activists of United Hindu Front, a right wing group reacting to Canada’s allegation that Indian Home Minister Amit Shah ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada, hold placards during a protest in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)
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Activists of United Hindu Front, a right wing group reacting to Canada’s allegation that Indian Home Minister Amit Shah ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada, hold placards during a protest in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, Nov. 5, 2024. (AP Photo/Manish Swarup)





By ROD MCGUIRK
Updated 6:38 AM PST, November 5, 2024

MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Australia’s foreign minister said Tuesday she raised allegations with her Indian counterpart that India has targeted Sikh activists in Canada.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong said she discussed the Canadian allegations with Indian Foreign Minister S. Jaishankar while he was in the Australian capital, Canberra.

India has denied Canada’s allegation that Indian Home Minister Amit Shah ordered the targeting of Sikh activists inside Canada.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police went public last with allegations that Indian diplomats were targeting Sikh separatists in Canada by sharing information about them with their government back home. They said top Indian officials were then passing that information along to Indian organized crime groups who were targeting the activists, who are Canadian citizens, with drive-by shootings, extortions and even murder.

Canada is not the only country that has accused Indian officials of plotting an assassination on foreign soil. The United States Justice Department announced criminal charges in mid-October against an Indian government employee in connection with an alleged foiled plot to kill a Sikh separatist leader living in New York City.
 
That's the problem. Sikhs abroad are no threat to Indian society. Everything India does hits them in the back. Everything Indians do that made others hate them is their own social construct, it's a social revolution that they built against themselves because of their own attitudes. Afghans and Iranians use to love Indians. Indians online made them hate them due to their anti-Gaza and anti-Muslim cause, you should be able to see this, Thunder! Moroccans watched Indian Bollywood daily, now they are boycotting it, because of what? Because of Indian attitude. The Gulf locals are now considering not hiring their Indians due to their anti Islamic hatred.

You must think big, Thunder. You are stuck in this secular box. Khalistan was of no threat to India but India went ahead and killed a few dissidents abroad. This only caused more backlack from the five eyes, countries who use to have good relations with India!

India will fall due to Modi's regime the same way Israel will fall due to the Zionist mindset.

Everyone likes puffery if targeted properly, especially followers of Modi.

From an Indian viewpoint, targeting 'other nations' whether they be non-Hindu majority (even Hindu majority like Nepal), pointing fingers at them and blaming them for all manner of victimhood and social ills of your own making, threatening your own citizens (followers of 'other religions' especially Islam) for no distinct reasons, can win massive number of votes from Hindus and rally people (even non-Hindus) around your party and your orange flag, no matter how fascist the concepts you profess and propagate.

To see some Indian Hindus fall for this age-old Modi and Sangh trick is truly disheartening. Once you open the floodgate of Hindutva-based hate legitimization, there is no stopping you, if you are in India. It is ironic of Hindus complaining about temple desecration when this kind of thing happens in their own country, like cops kicking people in prayer offering Namaaz.

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I bet Modi's tussle with Trudeau was carefully planned, because it sure boosted Modi's support at home and bolstered his position politically. The more Khalistanis desecrate Hindu temples in Canada, the more the Sangh gets bolstered in India in the name of "Hindus under attack".
 
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That's the problem. Sikhs abroad are no threat to Indian society. Everything India does hits them in the back. Everything Indians do that made others hate them is their own social construct, it's a social revolution that they built against themselves because of their own attitudes. Afghans and Iranians use to love Indians. Indians online made them hate them due to their anti-Gaza and anti-Muslim cause, you should be able to see this, Thunder! Moroccans watched Indian Bollywood daily, now they are boycotting it, because of what? Because of Indian attitude. The Gulf locals are now considering not hiring their Indians due to their anti Islamic hatred.

You must think big, Thunder. You are stuck in this secular box. Khalistan was of no threat to India but India went ahead and killed a few dissidents abroad. This only caused more backlack from the five eyes, countries who use to have good relations with India!

India will fall due to Modi's regime the same way Israel will fall due to the Zionist mindset.

I am neutral on Khalistan issue. Pakistan is also suspected of killing Baloch separatists in Sweden. This is why i'm neutral on Kahlistan, I want Bharat to stay out of our affairs.

Baloch separatism is between Pakistani state & Baloch rebels. No Bharatis, no Afghans.
 
Partly true. Many Indian migrants are there in many countries and they run their Medial sector, IT Sector and Education sector. If you allow criminals on the name of Asylum, you will pay the price. Anyway, Canada is a gone case. One can determine his/her gender by declaration. Too much BS on the name of individual freedom. Drugs is rampant. Idiot like Trudeau is on helm and asylum to Khalistanis make it a gone case totally.

There are far more Bharati scammers/criminals than there are those in the fields you write of.
 
Do you have hard numbers from a credible source to back up this ludicrous claim of yours?

Do you have a credible source that the majority of Bharatis are IT folks, doctors, engineers? I'll bet a huge fraction of them come on fake degrees. Also see how many Bharatis are being charged for scams and being deported. I believe in numbers alright. + common sense.
 
Do you have a credible source that the majority of Bharatis are IT folks, doctors, engineers? I'll bet a huge fraction of them come on fake degrees. Also see how many Bharatis are being charged for scams and being deported. I believe in numbers alright. + common sense.

You are a mod and passing ludicrous statements. That is what I believe.

You look at what you want to see.

Its like me saying the majority of Pakistanis in the west are beggars, terrorists and rapists.

Its easy right? Tons of reports of Pakistanis begging abroad all over the world, raping young underage girls, and being caught in terror plots, like planting bombs in cars.
 
Its easy right? Tons of reports of Pakistanis begging abroad all over the world, raping young underage girls, and being caught in terror plots, like planting bombs in cars.

Pakistan and no other country comes remotely as close to this;

Where else would you find locals scamming and begging you? Only in India and at this rate. While their residents online type to Pakistanis abroad "Oh my god, no atta".

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This is what India has done to themselves because people like you can't seem to face reality. You're only making this harder for yourselves in your short 70 years of existence.



On the other side, look at the way Pakistan treats its guests.
 

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