[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

[Lulldapull]

Gujarati cche. Chavda clan. Rajput?

Probably from Kathiawar region abutting Rajasthan.

@Krishna with Flute @Guru Dutt @Bagheera0084

Gypsy kings band ka gavayya…..



Baal check karo……jesay jhaanttain.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.

Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.

~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.

 

[Lulldapull]

Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.


~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.

If India really wants to discredit all Pakistani claims and blow everything out of the water, they should line up all 36 Rafales in a neat row.

And invite that mexican looking Aurangzeb half chief to view it no?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Redefining the geopolitics of Asia and the world.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Modi advices Pakistan youth to stand against terrorism. Sukun ki roti Khao varna meri goli to hai hi.

 

[Vsdoc]

Tom Cooper says that none of the PL 15 fired could hit any Time Indian plane.


~He says that Indian air defence S 400 worked batter than Russian S 400 because of batter integration with other systems
~He said that Air defence of Russia is batter than the AD of Europe and AD of India was batter than that of Russia..
~He said that Pakistan has nothing to show except the pictures from social media to claim victory.
~ He says that there is very low possibility that Pakistan may recover from this attack in near future of few years.
~ He said that Pakistan is in no position to deploy it's nuclear weapons now.

Definite scope for us being senior partner in development of the next Brahmos (A?) and the S500 with the Russkies.

Get a jet engine from the Russians with complete in house manufacture. Build swarms of local fighter jets.

Pick up the Su57 over the exorbitant Rafale.

Just completely stop fking around now for our defensive offense with anything the West makes.

Till we are actually a military power atmanirbhar in our own right, have Russia 100% with us.

We cannot survive a near peer war or a wider world war (not necessarily great war WWI or WWII scale. But definitely Eurasian) without the protection of one of the two superpowers.

And America will never be that one. No matter how lovingly we suck.

 

[Paitoo]

Definite scope for us being senior partner in development of the next Brahmos (A?) and the S500 with the Russkies.

Get a jet engine from the Russians with complete in house manufacture. Build swarms of local fighter jets.

Pick up the Su57 over the exorbitant Rafale.

Just completely stop fking around now for our defensive offense with anything the West makes.

Till we are actually a military power atmanirbhar in our own right, have Russia 100% with us.

We cannot survive a near peer war or a wider world war (not necessarily great war WWI or WWII scale. But definitely Eurasian) without the protection of one of the two superpowers.

And America will never be that one. No matter how lovingly we suck.

The equation in Pakistan is clear. The military decides what it wants, and gets the budget (big or small) for it. Then it works around it. In India babus and gormint decides what military should get and from whom. And it changes every 5 years. So no supplier treats us seriously. We will forever have to live with this khichdi of thought process. The bamman wastes too much time in analysis paralysis, the baniya only wants ROI. Together it is a disaster of a procurement strategy.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Pakistani media mocks Shabaz sharif for presenting him the 2019 picture of presented as the picture of Operation Sindoor. They advise Shahbaz Sharif that he should have chosen a correct picture which can not easily be identified.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Owasi calls Shahbaz Sharif and Moonira jokers by saying that Moonira gave 2019 Chinese exercise photo to Shahbaz as a victory picture of operation Sindoor. Call them Jokers.

 

[Vsdoc]

Pakistani media mocks Shabaz sharif for presenting him the 2019 picture of presented as the picture of Operation Sindoor. They advise Shahbaz Sharif that he should have chosen a correct picture which can not easily be identified.

Note the journalists still buy the Rafale and S400 claims.

In the online trolling world, this phenomenon or technique is valled Gish Gallop.

That is, say so many lies confidently, that eventually some will be bought, just by fact checking fatigue. As the recipient or listener either prioritizes what to cross check (new, more recent lies) or simply gets swamped.

In the real world its the equivalent of flinging potty at a wall. Fling enough of it, long enough, and some of it will stick.

 

[Vsdoc]

Modi advices Pakistan youth to stand against terrorism. Sukun ki roti Khao varna meri goli to hai hi.

Israel playbook.

Netanyahu addressing the youth of Iran.

@Lulldapull

 

[Paitoo]

Modi advices Pakistan youth to stand against terrorism. Sukun ki roti Khao varna meri goli to hai hi.

It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?

 

[Vsdoc]

It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?

You fkn said it.

 

[Mainerik]

It's cringe how it is always 'Main' 'Mera' 'Modi ka' with him. It's never 'us' and 'we'. I understand it was initially a part of a cult building exercise, but now it is simply cringe. Indian Military is simply 'Modi ki goli'? Are they Modi's tattus?

Imran Khan always spoke to the nation like a father. He always said "Mera Pakistanio".

 

[Vsdoc]

Imran Khan always spoke to the nation like a father. He always said "Mera Pakistanio".

Ghabrana nahin hai.

 

[Lulldapull]

Modi advices Pakistan youth to stand against terrorism. Sukun ki roti Khao varna meri goli to hai hi.

boht bura haal hae Krishna ab to......hukumraan zaleel no.......sub ko pata chal gya hae k kya huwa.

 

[Lulldapull]

Israel playbook.

Netanyahu addressing the youth of Iran.

@Lulldapull

main aap ko bol ra thaa doc......baybasi ka aalam dekho aap bhai......

Tehraan main Shehbaz bichara bettha hae minatain maang ra hae kuchh to day do na.......

Bhai hum kya karain ab?

Pezeshkian gaand na dikha day doc, dill toot jaey ga. Kuchh to day day yaar.

Bhai Shahid 136 drone to day do na? ager hypersonic nahi denay? we can't even hit back man......its a dire situ man.

Trump to hamain kutta bana day ga if we go begging, which we are inevitably heading toward unfortunately.

 

[Vsdoc]

main aap ko bol ra thaa doc......baybasi ka aalam dekho aap bhai......

Tehraan main Shehbaz bichara bettha hae minatain maang ra hae kuchh to day do na.......

Bhai hum kya karain ab?

Pezeshkian gaand na dikha day doc, dill toot jaey ga. Kuchh to day day yaar.

Bhai Shahid 136 drone to day do na? ager hypersonic nahi denay? we can't even hit back man......its a dire situ man.

Trump to hamain kutta bana day ga if we go begging, which we are inevitably heading toward unfortunately.

Your best bet is to become a full fledged vassal state of the US.

But then you are guaranteed encirclement by 3 enemy states from all sides.

And China gonna go cold.

I do not see a second option.

Give the US air bases and your ports to dock their fleet and nuclear subs.

Admit that Independence for 75 odd years, from gora rule, was an aberration for you.

An experiment that failed.

That you are not a fit people to run a nation. And nowhere close to being ready for self rule.

 

[Lulldapull]

Your best bet is to become a full fledged vassal state of the US.

But then you are guaranteed encirclement by 3 enemy states from all sides.

And China gonna go cold.

I do not see a second option.

Give the US air bases and your ports to dock their fleet and nuclear subs.

Admit that Independence for 75 odd years, from gora rule, was an aberration for you.

An experiment that failed.

That you are not a fit people to run a nation. And nowhere close to being ready for self rule.

Bilkul.......issy liye hamain banaya bhee gya thaa doc......its come full circle no?

Total neo-colonial outpost.

 

[Vsdoc]

Bilkul.......issy liye hamain banaya bhee gya thaa doc......its come full circle no?

Total neo-colonial outpost.

Sadly yes.

You were made for Britain to tide over WWII losses and fatigue.

The plan being to come back and take it all. When they had recovered, rebuilt and could.

Unfortunately in the interim Britain became colonized by colludz. And a third world country.

US being the bustard child will however take up the slack.

India was the fly in the ointment.

No one predicted India would survive quick balkanization.

And actually grow to where it is today.

 

[Lulldapull]

Sadly yes.

You were made for Britain to tide over WWII losses and fatigue.

The plan being to come back and take it all. When they had recovered, rebuilt and could.

Unfortunately in the interim Britain became colonized by colludz. And a third world country.

US being the bustard child will however take up the slack.

India was the fly in the ointment.

No one predicted India would survive quick balkanization.

And actually grow to where it is today.

Ab dekho aap what Trump will do.......

from da looks of it, he's cut us off from pretty much the public space other than IMF funding for now......

If dat stops doc......its all over.

He's told China to keep giving us junk weapons......just feel good injection.

Decorum barqaraar rahay buss.......for chutiye like mastaand khan types......Airplane toilet main jaa ker he'd suck off a big black dude, I bet......lol

Koi baat nahi.......zindagi main aesa bhee hota hae......

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Now Japan gets access to Chinese PL 15 E missile to decode data.

Japanese Experts Gain First Access to Recovered PL-15E Missile Data Amid India-Pakistan Conflict - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: IDRW.ORG In a significant development following the recent India-Pakistan aerial clashes, Japanese radar engineers and electronic warfare (EW) experts are set to be the first foreign specialists to access detailed information on the Chinese-made PL-15E beyond-visual-range air-to-air...

idrw.org

Indian experts have already said that there is nothing to reengineer from PL 15. Its seeker and data link are inferior to Astra. Only use ofbthe missile is to decode data for counter measures.Taiwan, US, Japan and France wants the data.

 

[Mainerik]

Now Japan gets access to Chinese PL 15 E missile to decode data.

Japanese Experts Gain First Access to Recovered PL-15E Missile Data Amid India-Pakistan Conflict - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: IDRW.ORG In a significant development following the recent India-Pakistan aerial clashes, Japanese radar engineers and electronic warfare (EW) experts are set to be the first foreign specialists to access detailed information on the Chinese-made PL-15E beyond-visual-range air-to-air...

idrw.org

Indian experts have already said that there is nothing to reengineer from PL 15. Its seeker and data link are inferior to Astra. Only use ofbthe missile is to decode data for counter measures.Taiwan, US, Japan and France wants the data.

@Jiangnan

 

[Vsdoc]

Ab dekho aap what Trump will do.......

from da looks of it, he's cut us off from pretty much the public space other than IMF funding for now......

If dat stops doc......its all over.

He's told China to keep giving us junk weapons......just feel good injection.

Decorum barqaraar rahay buss.......for chutiye like mastaand khan types......Airplane toilet main jaa ker he'd suck off a big black dude, I bet......lol

Koi baat nahi.......zindagi main aesa bhee hota hae......

Very astute Lull.

 

[Vsdoc]

Now Japan gets access to Chinese PL 15 E missile to decode data.

Japanese Experts Gain First Access to Recovered PL-15E Missile Data Amid India-Pakistan Conflict - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: IDRW.ORG In a significant development following the recent India-Pakistan aerial clashes, Japanese radar engineers and electronic warfare (EW) experts are set to be the first foreign specialists to access detailed information on the Chinese-made PL-15E beyond-visual-range air-to-air...

idrw.org

Indian experts have already said that there is nothing to reengineer from PL 15. Its seeker and data link are inferior to Astra. Only use ofbthe missile is to decode data for counter measures.Taiwan, US, Japan and France wants the data.

Hope we are not giving it away for free.

Jahan banya buddhi lagani hai, waha daan karenge mandbuddhi.

 

[Sharma Ji]

How do you explain the Indian - Iranian thing (bond?)

ek zehni liking si hai, hamesha sa hai, feels like anyway

kinda like us and the Russians

sar pe laal topi roosi.. and we like Irani

it intrigues me greatly but I haven't been able top nail it down.. ajeeb metaphysical lafda, Doc.. really.

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Vsdoc

 

[Vsdoc]

How do you explain the Indian - Iranian thing (bond?)

ek zehni liking si hai, hamesha sa hai, feels like anyway

kinda like us and the Russians

sar pe laal topi roosi.. and we like Irani

it intrigues me greatly but I haven't been able top nail it down.. ajeeb metaphysical lafda, Doc.. really.

Do you like your father?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Do you like your father?

could be, bhot purani ancestral memory.. or something.

the very leftist folk keep pushing this think, ki northies ke roots genuine nahin hai, original are the dravs.. xhit like that.

dunno, AIT vs OOI waali cheez.. and then you have guys like Koneraad Elst, David Frawley and that Frenchie sanghi, Gautier..

pata nahi bhai, personally im on the fence about it, and no great interest in it but that is on ongoing conversation debate

 

[Vsdoc]

could be, bhot purani ancestral memory.. or something.

the very leftist folk keep pushing this think, ki northies ke roots genuine nahin hai, original are the dravs.. xhit like that.

dunno, AIT vs OOI waali cheez.. and then you have guys like Koneraad Elst, David Frawley and that Frenchie sanghi, Gautier..

pata nahi bhai, personally im on the fence about it, and no great interest in it but that is on ongoing conversation debate

For present Indians I think its a combination of their view of Parsis and their belief that Iranians are Parsis only who were forcibly converted to Islam but were originally agni poojaks.

Never mind the fact that 1400 years have passed since then.

And that in many of the intervening centuries those same guys raided, defeated, looted, raped, plundered and ruled India in the name and under the banner of Islam.

Stockholm?

 

[Sharma Ji]

For present Indians I think its a combination of their view of Parsis and their belief that Iranians are Parsis only who were forcibly converted to Islam bit were originally agni poojaks.

Never mind the fact that 1400 years have passed since then.

And that in many of the intervening centuries those same guys raided, defeated, looted, raped, plundered and ruled India in the name of Islam.

Stockholm?

and converted many, which eventually resulted in our fracturing as a nation.

khair.. kal ki baat purani... aage ka socha jaye

 

[Vsdoc]

and converted many, which eventually resulted in our fracturing as a nation.

khair.. kal ki baat purani... aage ka socha jaye

I personally would not trust any Irani further than I could throw him.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I personally would not trust any Irani further than I could throw him.

only ever met a handful, last was, I think I mentioned, a music group in Arambol.. they were all the rage some years ago for a season or 2.. Oud, drums, DJ, singing some exotic *&*&*&*&.. very nice crew of people, didn't talk politics the little interaction I had with em but nice folk.. im guessing atheist type bandey.. full smoking etc, you know how it goes there..

 

[Vsdoc]

only ever met a handful, last was, I think I mentioned, a music group in Arambol.. they were all the rage some years ago for a season or 2.. Oud, drums, DJ, singing some exotic &&&&.. very nice crew of people, didn't talk politics the little interaction I had with em but nice folk.. im guessing atheist type bandey.. full smoking etc, you know how it goes there..

Eventually they all will look at you as a Hendi.

1400 years of brain washing means they look at you racially and theologically as inferiors.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Eventually they all will look at you as a Hendi.

1400 years of brain washing means they look at you racially and theologically as inferiors.

broad strokes much, Doc. ?

collective ka pata nahi but there's nice individuals everywhere

 

[Vsdoc]

broad strokes much, Doc. ?

collective ka pata nahi but there's nice individuals everywhere

Bro im telling u about Iranis living there or outside.

India mein aa ke saare bheegi billi ban jaate hain.

 

[Vsdoc]

Tera dimaag kharab ho gaya hai ye interracial you tube chtya videos dekh ke.

Sach bata raha hun.

Thoda real world mein ghumo. Lambi saans lo.

Smell the berry flavoured tatti.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Bro im telling u about Iranis living there or outside.

India mein aa ke saare bheegi billi ban jaate hain.

Haan, toh yahan concert karne aaye thei, not for lynching treatment

EK Jordan ka bhi mila, met a group of Saa-oodis also one time.. fulltoo enjoying

in-group mentality sabki hoti hai, to a degree, goras, desis, arbis, iranis, jews.. that's just how it works.

 

[Vsdoc]

Haan, toh yahan concert karne aaye thei, not for lynching treatment

EK Jordan ka bhi mila, met a group of Saa-oodis also one time.. fulltoo enjoying

in-group mentality sabki hoti hai, to a degree, goras, desis, arbis, iranis, jews.. that's just how it works.

What i told you in a prior post about Parsis and judging us on 100,000

Dont.

Judge people on what they are when they are in the majority. On their own home ground.

 

[Sharma Ji]

What i told you in a prior post about Parsis and judging us on 100,000

Dont.

Judge people on what they are when they are in the majority. On their own home ground.

Tell us, how a Zoro rashtra would be, if desis were a minority group there ?

 

[Vsdoc]

Tell us, how a Zoro rashtra would be, if desis were a minority group there ?

Look at history.

What @Lulldapull had told you guys about the Jews in Persia.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Look at history.

What @Lulldapull had told you guys about the Jews in Persia.

I don't know, kya scene tha .. pappu bana k rakha tha ki full respec milti thi ?

 

[Vsdoc]

I don't know, kya scene tha .. pappu bana k rakha tha ki full respec milti thi ?

They were not butchered.

And they were free to practice their faith.

Build temples.

You must know about the famous cylinder right?

 

[Sharma Ji]

They were not butchered.

And they were free to practice their faith.

Build temples.

You must know about the famous cylinder right?

cylinder.. ? no

still a tiny handful there

 

[Vsdoc]

cylinder.. ? no

still a tiny handful there

Google bhan ...

 

[Vsdoc]

Cyrus cylinder. Human rights.

 

[Paitoo]

They were not butchered.

And they were free to practice their faith.

Build temples.

You must know about the famous cylinder right?

The religious tolerance of pre Islamic Persians is legendary

 

[Sharma Ji]

Cyrus cylinder. Human rights.

yes, just googled it.

fascinating.

 

[Sharma Ji]

watching the for dummies version:

 

[Lulldapull]

Hope we are not giving it away for free.

Jahan banya buddhi lagani hai, waha daan karenge mandbuddhi.

Yahan saaray Japanese huns re hain that China weapon bekaar niklay……lol

South Korean bhee huns re hain……lol

Aur north koreans ko qabz ho gya abhee say.

Bhaandda phoott gya! Toba toba…..aik ka phootta but do aur khud ba khud nungay ho gaey….

Damn…..