[đŸ‡§đŸ‡©-Airforce] MRCA Program of Bangladesh Air Force

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Short Summary: Monitoring the purchase of 4.5 generation aircraft for BAF.
Jiangnan said:

1. The J-10C adopts a gemstone column avionics structure similar to the F-22A, and is definitely the leader among the world's fourth and a half generation mid size aircraft. The KLJ-10 active phased array radar (X-band) with a diameter of 800 millimeters, equipped with 1400 gallium nitride T/R modules, enables the J-10C to have a detection range of 80 km for stealth fighters such as the F-35, and a detection range of over 240 km for air-to-air fighters with a forward RCS of 1 ㎡. The KLJ-10 active phased array radar can simultaneously track 50 targets and engage with 6 major threat targets. In addition, the J-10C is equipped with an infrared search and tracking system (IRST), which has a detection range of 110km for the Indian military's Rafale fighter jet.

2. PL-15 can reach 200km.

What do you think about Jiangnan's claims about J-10C?

I have explained this in detail in my post. I don't want to repeat it.
 
I have explained this in detail in my post. I don't want to repeat it.

Jiangnan said:

1. The J-10C adopts a gemstone column avionics structure similar to the F-22A, and is definitely the leader among the world's fourth and a half generation mid size aircraft. The KLJ-10 active phased array radar (X-band) with a diameter of 800 millimeters, equipped with 1400 gallium nitride T/R modules, enables the J-10C to have a detection range of 80 km for stealth fighters such as the F-35, and a detection range of over 240 km for air-to-air fighters with a forward RCS of 1 ㎡. The KLJ-10 active phased array radar can simultaneously track 50 targets and engage with 6 major threat targets. In addition, the J-10C is equipped with an infrared search and tracking system (IRST), which has a detection range of 110km for the Indian military's Rafale fighter jet.

2. PL-15 can reach 200km.

What do you think about Jiangnan's claims about J-10C?
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Krishna with Flute said:

It is an Air cooled mediocre radar with Low power. Had it been high power, it would have required greater cooling requirement. Example are car and byke engines. For greater cooling requirement in car, water cooling and radiators are requirement. J 10 being a mediocre fighter is evident from the data. Tejas MK2 with 56/98 KN Engine has a payload of 6.5 tones i.e 500 KG higher than Chinese J 10 which carries only 6000 k.g with 72/130 KN engine which is 35 to 40% powerful. It has higher take off time than even Tejas MK1A. It is not made low RCS. Atleast 19 had fallen down till 2021. It has high RCS and can be detected from a long distance. J10 A and B are total junk. J10 c is moderately good with addition of TVC and other stuff. Electronics was never a plus point of Chinese aircraft. It legs behind all nations making aircraft in AVIONICS. It has substandard weapons in terms of their WVR and BVER missiles with inferior seekers. They hype the range by citing highest range at high altitude which reduces to half at around 6000 to 8000 meter compared to 15000 meters.


Jiangnan,

Do you agree with Krishna with Flute about the quality of J-10?
 
What evidence do you have to back up your claims regarding the quality of J-10C aircraft?
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Krishna with Flute said:

It is an Air cooled mediocre radar with Low power. Had it been high power, it would have required greater cooling requirement. Example are car and byke engines. For greater cooling requirement in car, water cooling and radiators are requirement. J 10 being a mediocre fighter is evident from the data. Tejas MK2 with 56/98 KN Engine has a payload of 6.5 tones i.e 500 KG higher than Chinese J 10 which carries only 6000 k.g with 72/130 KN engine which is 35 to 40% powerful. It has higher take off time than even Tejas MK1A. It is not made low RCS. Atleast 19 had fallen down till 2021. It has high RCS and can be detected from a long distance. J10 A and B are total junk. J10 c is moderately good with addition of TVC and other stuff. Electronics was never a plus point of Chinese aircraft. It legs behind all nations making aircraft in AVIONICS. It has substandard weapons in terms of their WVR and BVER missiles with inferior seekers. They hype the range by citing highest range at high altitude which reduces to half at around 6000 to 8000 meter compared to 15000 meters.


Jiangnan,

Do you agree with Krishna with Flute about the quality of J-10?
I completely agree. We all know. Tejas is the world's most powerful fighter jet. 1 Tejas = 100 Rafale.
 
What evidence do you have to back up your claims regarding the quality of J-10C aircraft?
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While comparing Tejas and JF 17, Global Times said the same thing. The last sentence of the article was " While JF 17 is a plane of present, Tejas is a plane of future".
How can it be a plane of the future being slightly better than MiG-29, Su-30 and Mirage 2000? It is antiquated as anything. The design and components are all over two decades old.

Too small and too old...
 
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How can it be a plane of the future being slightly better than MiG-29, Su-30 and Mirage 2000? It is antiquated as anything. The design and components are all over two decades old.

Too small and too old...

The words were used by Global times when the article was published when JF 17 was new. At that time (even today) Tejas had used lot more composite than any other aircraft and it was tweaked for low RCS design in the limitation of Aerodynamics. It had a very advance flight control system and lesser numbers of parts. It had a very good Israeli radar and multiple weapon options from India, Europe, Israel and Russia. It was very good when it came. It is good even today. That is why (Perhaps) Global Times had told it an aircraft of future. It was an aircraft of future at that time and that is why it is contemporary today. JF 17 was Contemporary at that time that is why out dated today.
 

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