[🇵🇰] Will Pakistan ever function as a secular state?

[Lulldapull]

If anything we should annex Afghanistan. Usually Afghanistanis think better of Pakistanis. But anyways.

Well we also have a lot in common with Afghanistan. But there are many Pakistanis who do not like Afghanistan, because it is the "Somalia" of Asia, a very poor and backward country.

The afghani hate us bro……I don’t know why but they hate us.

We should beat the crap out of these afghani they are racist toward us for no reason when they themselves are dalit. They covet our KPK and we will not budge on that issue even over our dead bodies. I want irani’s to beat the living shiit out of these afghani and turn them into proper civilized people so they respect their neighbors and learn to live like decent citizens of Afghanistan. We should talk to the irani’s to beat them up and civilize them because they respect irani’s and look down upon us. Badtameez tribal qaum killing our innocent ghareeb civilians and law enforcement. Totally unacceptable behavior of Afghani.

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

I have met some Afghanistani who are pro-Pakistan. We have every right to purchase and annex Afghanistan. It is our backyard.

The afghani hate us bro……I don’t know why but they hate us.

We should beat the crap out of these afghani they are racist toward us for no reason when they themselves are dalit. They covet our KPK and we will not budge on that issue even over our dead bodies. I want irani’s to beat the living shiit out of these afghani and turn them into proper civilized people so they respect their neighbors and learn to live like decent citizens of Afghanistan. We should talk to the irani’s to beat them up and civilize them because they respect irani’s and look down upon us. Badtameez tribal qaum killing our innocent ghareeb civilians and law enforcement. Totally unacceptable behavior of Afghani.

 

[Lulldapull]

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I agree afghanis are an issue in Pakistan and they should be sorted out, their arrogance gets annoying.

But you have an unhealthy obsession with Iran.

Oh bhai, get real no? Your middle class suburban US upbringing ain’t cutting it. All Muslim countries are convert pushovers, other than Iran. Or are we in denial on this issue? Iran is the only power in da muzlim whulld no? Baqi are do thapurr away from reversion.

Hard to believe you in denial? Of reality? are you kidding?

 

[Malang (Deleted)]

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Oh bhai, get real no? Your middle class suburban US upbringing ain’t cutting it. All Muslim countries are convert pushovers, other than Iran. Or are we in denial on this issue? Iran is the only power in da muzlim whulld no? Baqi are do thapurr away from reversion.

Hard to believe you in denial? Of reality? are you kidding?

Sir pata nahi aap ne konsi tareekh ki katab parhi hai. Maine jo kitab parhi hai us main baaqi nations to ek baar convert hoe Iran 2 baar convert huwa hai.

First they converted from Zoroastrianism to Sunni Islam leading to chaos in the early days of Islamic history as they did not accept it happily. Then in the 15th or 16th century when their King decided to convert from Sunni Islam to Shia Islam and issued a decree that everyone must be converted to Shiasm. It took them more than 150 years to complete impose the sect upon its people but they ultimately achieved this goal around the 17th century due to strict policies on the people.

 

[Lulldapull]

Sir pata nahi aap ne konsi tareekh ki katab parhi hai. Maine jo kitab parhi hai us main baaqi nations to ek baar convert hoe Iran 2 baar convert huwa hai.

First they converted from Zoroastrianism to Sunni Islam leading to chaos in the early days of Islamic history as they did not accept it happily. Then in the 15th or 16th century when their King decided to convert from Sunni Islam to Shia Islam and issued a decree that everyone must be converted to Shiasm. It took them more than 150 years to complete impose the sect upon its people but they ultimately achieved this goal around the 17th century due to strict policies on the people.

Correct! But they still shia no? Last 400 years same mazhabi firqa bhai. Look at our situation bro….just 100 years ago most of us were hindu or sikh. We just converted in last century..Dr Salman has done a whole program on this subject bhai. Millions converted when partition happened to avoid being dispossessed of their land and holdings.

 

[Lulldapull]

Dr Salman Rashid sahb:

 

[Old School]

Sir pata nahi aap ne konsi tareekh ki katab parhi hai. Maine jo kitab parhi hai us main baaqi nations to ek baar convert hoe Iran 2 baar convert huwa hai.

First they converted from Zoroastrianism to Sunni Islam leading to chaos in the early days of Islamic history as they did not accept it happily. Then in the 15th or 16th century when their King decided to convert from Sunni Islam to Shia Islam and issued a decree that everyone must be converted to Shiasm. It took them more than 150 years to complete impose the sect upon its people but they ultimately achieved this goal around the 17th century due to strict policies on the people.

I have finally converted to "Love Religion" and become an ardent lover.

 

[Old School]

Why does this forum have disinfo trolls like you, if you make claims you give sources. You are definitely a larp whether the mods know this I am not aware. I'm assuming your iranian since all you care about is iran?

Lull needs to swap his Jap wife for an Iranian wife now. I wish I had an Iranian wife instead of the one I have from Islamabad.

 

[MuHayMin]

Lull needs to swap his Jap wife for an Iranian wife now. I wish I had an Iranian wife instead of the one I have from Islamabad.

Iranian women are gorgeous I will give Lull that

 

[PakistanProud]

Reminder: Please avoid insults, slurs, and personal issues of others. Let’s not talk about family members when referring to others.

This is an open forum that prides free speech and freedom of post and it should remain that way.

 

[Old School]

It is not difficult to promote secularism in Pakistan. Just frog march the military and let the civilian leadership handle the nuclear deterrants. With military out of the picture , religious fanatics will die out without fuel. Pakistan has been run by basically familes in rotation since ZA Bhutto died. Punjab is already a family property of the Sharif brothers. Imran Khan has been indeed jailed by a notorious family law.

 

[MuHayMin]

It is not difficult to promote secularism in Pakistan. Just frog march the military and let the civilian leadership handle the nuclear deterrants. With military out of the picture , religious fanatics will die out without fuel. Pakistan has been run by basically familes in rotation since ZA Bhutto died. Punjab is already a family property of the Sharif brothers. Imran Khan has been indeed jailed by a notorious family law.

It is not difficult to promote secularism in Pakistan. Just frog march the military and let the civilian leadership handle the nuclear deterrants. With military out of the picture , religious fanatics will die out without fuel. Pakistan has been run by basically familes in rotation since ZA Bhutto died. Punjab is already a family property of the Sharif brothers. Imran Khan has been indeed jailed by a notorious family law.

Hopefully we can see secularism here, even before iran

 

[Old School]

Hopefully we can see secularism here, even before iran

Pakistan used to have a solid secular movement in Peshawar before 1947. Many people do not know this fact. Peshawar used to be the socialist hub of the Subcontinent until military juntas on the British payroll in the post-1947 period destroyed it and turned it into what it is today.

 

[MuHayMin]

Pakistan used to have a solid secular movement in Peshawar before 1947. Many people do not know this fact. Peshawar used to be the socialist hub of the Subcontinent until military juntas on the British payroll in the post-1947 period destroyed it and turned it into what it is today.

Pakistanis typically are very secular minded in comparison to other nations. Yes there's a huge salafi chunk like the Iqbal guy who was here yesterday but I see secularism to be possible here.

 

[Old School]

Pakistanis typically are very secular minded in comparison to other nations. Yes there's a huge salafi chunk like the Iqbal guy who was here yesterday but I see secularism to be possible here.

Hopefully we can see secularism here, even before iran

Pakistan used to have a solid secular movement in Peshawar before 1947. Many people do not know this fact. Peshawar used to be the socialist hub of the Subcontinent until military juntas on the British payroll in the post-1947 period destroyed it and turned it into what it is today.

Most Pakistani immigrants are usually more religious than the actual Pakistani people. Most immigrants come from low-income neighborhoods of Pakistan that have always struggled economically. They took their religious memes with them when they migrated. Memes work quite the same way as genes, which transfer from generation to generation and replicate.