Wars 2023 10/08 Monitoring the Israel and Lebanon War

[Lulldapull]

The issue here is the incessant backing of Israel by the west against Iran. Iran will not relent and fight the west for its share and take. This ain’t no religious war by any stretch of the imagination. Irani mulla are hardcore Persian nationalists.

It’s Iran vs the west for the control of the region. Plain n simple.

We need to watch out for which country next Iran will take over now. Is it Sudan? Or is it Ethiopia? Or is it Bahrain? Or is it goin be Afghanistan?

 

[Saif]

Several Bangladeshis missing, hurt in Lebanon

Several Bangladesh nationals living in Lebanon reportedly remained missing while many others became injured as Israel continued attacks on the East Asian country...

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Several Bangladeshis missing, hurt in Lebanon
Rashad Ahamad 29 September, 2024, 23:48

Several Bangladesh nationals living in Lebanon reportedly remained missing while many others became injured as Israel continued attacks on the East Asian country that killed hundreds of people and compelled millions to flee their homes amid air strikes that were intensified since September 23.

The panicked migrants who left the high-risk zones and took shelter on roads, mosques, makeshift centres, and other open spaces were passing inhuman life amid the crisis for food and drinking water.

Stranded migrants complained that they were not getting any support from the Bangladesh embassy in Beirut though the embassy, in an emergency notice, asked them to contact over the phone.

Shahriar Ashik Joy, son-in-law of a Lebanon migrant Razia Sultana, said that Razia remained missing since Friday.

He said that Razia, a resident of Hularhat in Pirojpur, migrated from Bangladesh 20 years ago and lastly lived in Dahieh.

‘On Friday morning, she talked to me but we could not reach her after that time. I heard from many that Dahieh area was demolished by airstrikes,’ he said and added that that they were not sure about what exactly happened to Razia.

He said that Delwar Hossain from Noakhali, now a hotel worker in the Navatia area in Beirut, also remained missing for the past seven days.

Emran Hossain Shovan, a Bangladeshi migrant in Lebanon, said that he had left the Dahieh area and taken shelter in a centre located five kilometres away from his place of living.

He said that his friend Shahab Uddin, who had been living near Beirut, also remained missing.

Md Firuz Dakua, another Bangladeshi migrant in Lebanon and the president of Probashi Odhikar Parishad in Lebanon, said that relatives of many migrants alleged that their relatives remained missing in Lebanon while some others sustained injuries in the strikes.

He said that at least five critically injured Bangladeshi workers were undergoing treatment at a local hospital though taking treatment in Lebanon was a challenging issue now.

Migrants said that Rehana Begum from Narsingdi and Abdul Mottalib from Feni were undergoing treatment at Hadat Central Hospital since they were injured in an attack on Friday.

Migrant workers said that there was no report of the death of Bangladeshi migrants so far.

They alleged that the embassy in Beirut remained uncaring about the humanitarian crisis of the migrants.

They, however, said that some humanitarian organisations and individuals came forward to help the affected people.

They demanded to the embassy to evaluate the situation like some other countries that had already relocated their workers to safe zones.

Neither the Bangladesh ambassador to Lebanon nor the first secretary (labour) there could be reached for comments over the telephone.

However, ambassador Javed Tanveer Khan in a video message on early Sunday asked Bangladeshi migrants to contact them over the embassy’s helpline and hotline numbers for any sort of help.

He said that the embassy informed the current situation to their Dhaka office and was trying to stand by the migrants.

He advised Bangladeshis staying there to stand by others and face the situation with courage and patience.

The south and east parts of Beirut are the most unrest areas and the authorities asked migrants to take shelter at safe zones.

The Bangladesh embassy in Beirut on Friday, in an emergency notice, advised the Bangladeshis in Lebanon to stay in safe areas.

‘In the given situation, the Bangladeshis who are still living in Dahieh or adjacent areas are advised to leave the area for northern Beirut or any other safe area,’ the notice said.

The embassy opened emergency phone numbers and asked Bangladeshi migrants to call for support. The phone numbers are 71217139 (embassy’s front desk), 70635278 (hotline), 81744207 (helpline). They were also asked to communicate through the Beirut mission’s email ‘mailto: Beirut.mission@mofa.gov.bd’.

The migrants, however, alleged that nobody in the embassy responded to their calls over the telephone.

According to the media reports, at least 700 people, including dozens of children, were killed since Israel intensified a bombing campaign in Lebanon on September 23.

It is estimated that over one lakh people now work in Lebanon, mostly in garment factories, hotels, hospitals and households.

According to Bangladesh’s Bureau of Manpower, Employment and Training statistics, at least 267,364 Bangladeshis migrated to the country since 2002. Of them, 61,786 migrated since 2015.

Migrants estimated that over one lakh people were now working in the West Asian country.​

 

[Saif]

Is Hezbollah losing the war against Israel?

Dispelling speculations the Lebanese Shia Islamist militant group, Hezbollah, has admitted that their supreme leader Hassan Nasrallah has been killed in Friday evening in a massive Israeli air attack in Southern Beirut. Israeli Defence Force (IDF) also claimed that in the same airstrike it killed A

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Is Hezbollah losing the war against Israel?
SYED FATTAHUL ALIM
Published :
Sep 29, 2024 21:32
Updated :
Sep 29, 2024 21:32

Dispelling speculations the Lebanese Shia Islamist militant group, Hezbollah, has admitted that their supreme leader Hassan Nasrallah has been killed in Friday evening in a massive Israeli air attack in Southern Beirut. Israeli Defence Force (IDF) also claimed that in the same airstrike it killed Ali Karki, commander of Hezbollah's southern front as well as other Hezbollah commanders. Meanwhile, other senior Hezbollah leaders have been killed in Israeli attacks. With the death of Hassan Nasrallah, the secretary general of Hezbollah as a political party, virtually the group's top leadership has been decimated. Definitely it's a huge blow to Hezbollah as it is now facing a leadership vacuum and the remaining leadership is perhaps in disarray. With Hezbollah thus put on the back foot, it's definitely a turning point for Israel, which saw no significant success in its war against Palestinian resistance led by the Hamas militants in Gaza. For Hezbollah it is obviously an hour of reckoning when Israel is mercilessly continuing its bombing campaign against it in Lebanon.

The Iran-backed anti-Israel resistant group, a formidable military force of the region, has suffered a series of reversals over a fortnight. September 17's explosions of pagers and other radio devices had already hit Hezbollah hard, a fact Hassan Nasrallah himself acknowledged in his speech after the incident as saying that it dealt a severe blow to the organisation. The pager attacks obviously disrupted the internal communication network of the militant group. Though the present leadership of the organisation has expressed its defiance and determination to continue the fight against Israel to support its comrades, the Hamas fighters in Gaza, question remains about the morale, quality of leadership and level of coordination within the organisation. The pager attacks followed by serial assassination of other senior Hezbollah leaders are a clear indication of the fact that Israel knows too much about Hezbollah so much so that the movement and its leadership are constantly under Israel's scanner. No doubt the militant organisation's security system has been severely compromised.

So, what is going to happen next? Will Israel take full advantage of this security flaw of Hezbollah to launch a full-scale ground offensive in Lebanon as it did it in Gaza about a year ago? Well, mobilisation of Israeli forces on Lebanon's southern border may be indicative of an imminent offensive. There is no doubt that Netanyahu, who successfully took out Hassan Nasrallah and his close comrades one by one, spruced up his image significantly, following a year-long Gaza debacle. The Israeli public is now expecting that Netanyahu could finally give them a victory that evaded them so far in Gaza. However, if Israel remembers the history of its past ground invasions in Lebanon, it will have to think twice. Israel's invasion of Lebanon in 1982, for instance, was initially a big success. Israel's army swept through Beirut, killed tens of thousands of Lebanese civilians and drove out the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) from Lebanon. There was no Hezbollah then. But Israeli occupation of Lebanon created the Hezbollah, from Shi'ite Amal movement. After splitting from Amal, Hassan Nasrallah and his associates first formed Islamic Amal, and in 1985 established Hezbollah with its stated objective of destroying Israel. He became the top leader of this organisation in 1992 at the age of 32 after the assassination of its top leader Abbas al-Musawiin in an Israeli helicopter strike.

Born in 1960 as the eldest of the nine children to Abdul Karim, who owned a small green grocery shop in Beirut's eastern Bourj Hammoud neigbourhood, Hassan Nasrallah was naturally drawn towards radical movements as Lebanon descended into a civil war in 1975.

After assuming Abbas al-Musawi's mantle as Hezbollah's top leader, he has been running the resistance group for 32 years. And the resistance war he started against the Israeli occupation forces in Lebanon actually forced Israel to withdraw its troops in 2000 from Southern Lebanon.

Other than carrying out blitzkriegs to win quick victory, Israel's capacity for sustaining long resistance of a hostile population is very limited as it has already been proved in Gaza. Killing civilians by air strikes is one thing, maintaining control over an occupied territory is quite another matter. Moreover, in consequence of the Gaza war and Hezbollah's year-long war of attrition against Israel, the economy of this Zionist state is already in a shambles. It is only through constant replenishment of depleted military arsenal of the Zionist state mainly by the US and its European allies that Israel can still continue the war against the Hamas and Hezbollah. From that point of view, the Lebanese Hezbollah and the Hamas of Gaza are not just fighting Israel. In truth, they are fighting the collective West under the leadership of the USA where Israel is a client state. The question is how long can the West continue this support for Israel, which has already lost its acceptability globally, especially for committing genocide in Gaza? Along with Israel, the collective West, too, has lost its moral high ground as the champion of human rights, democracy and other great values they claim they stand for. Not only morally, the US and its Western allies are on the wane also economically. In that case, Israel's continued existence as an apartheid, settler-colonial power backed by the decaying, decadent West is not sustainable in the long run. So, the successful assassinations of the top Hezbollah leadership by Israeli airstrikes do not mean the end of Hezbollah; nor do those signify the turn of the tide for Israel.

Israel might have won a battle against Hezbollah, but it is essentially fighting a losing war.​

 

[Saif]

Justice or assassination: How world leaders react to killing of Nasrallah

World leaders warned of potential repercussions on Saturday after Lebanese militant group Hezbollah announced its longtime leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed in an Israeli air strike on a suburb of Beirut.

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Justice or assassination: How world leaders react to killing of Nasrallah
Published: 29 Sep 2024, 08: 31

Hezbollah chief Nasrallah File photo

World leaders warned of potential repercussions on Saturday after Lebanese militant group Hezbollah announced its longtime leader Hassan Nasrallah was killed in an Israeli air strike on a suburb of Beirut.

The killing of the Iran-backed group's chief has intensified fears of all-out war in the Middle East.

US President Joe Biden welcomed "a measure of justice".

Iran

First Vice President Mohammad Reza Aref warned Israel that Nasrallah's death would "bring about their destruction", Iran's ISNA news agency quoted him as saying.

The foreign ministry of Iran, which finances and arms Hezbollah, said Nasrallah's work will continue after his death. "His sacred goal will be realised in the liberation of Quds (Jerusalem), God willing," spokesman Nasser Kanani posted on X.

Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei announced five days of public mourning.

United States

Biden said Nasrallah's death was "a measure of justice for his many victims, including thousands of Americans, Israelis and Lebanese civilians".

Washington supports Israel's right to defend itself against "Iranian-supported terrorist groups" and the "defence posture" of US forces in the region would be "further enhanced", Biden added in a statement.

Vice President Kamala Harris said Nasrallah was "a terrorist with American blood on his hands" and said she would "always support Israel's right to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis."

Leading Republicans in the House of Representatives also welcomed the end of a "reign of bloodshed, oppression, and terror" by "one of the most brutal terrorists on the planet".

Russia

Russia's foreign ministry said "we decisively condemn the latest political murder carried out by Israel" and urged it to "immediately cease military action" in Lebanon.

Israel would "bear full responsibility" for the "tragic" consequences the killing could bring to the region, the ministry added in a statement.

Germany

Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told ARD television that the killing "threatens destabilisation for the whole of Lebanon", which "is in no way in Israel's security interest".

Canada

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau described Nasrallah as "the leader of a terrorist organization that attacked and killed innocent civilians, causing immense suffering across the region".

But he called for more to be done to protect civilians in the conflict, adding: "We urge calm and restraint during this critical time."

Britain

Foreign Secretary David Lammy said in a post on X that he had spoken with the Lebanese premier.

"We agreed on the need for an immediate ceasefire to bring an end to the bloodshed. A diplomatic solution is the only way to restore security and stability for the Lebanese and Israeli people," he said.

France

French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot demanded Israel "immediately stop its strikes in Lebanon" and said it was opposed to any ground operation in the country.

France also "calls on other actors, notably Hezbollah and Iran, to abstain from any action that could lead to additional destabilisation and regional conflagration", the foreign ministry said in a statement.

United Nations

UN chief Antonio Guterres said he was "gravely concerned by the dramatic escalation of events in Beirut in the last 24 hours".

Hamas

Palestinian militant group Hamas, whose unprecedented October 7 attack on Israel sparked the devastating war in Gaza that drew in fellow Iran-backed groups including Hezbollah, called Nasrallah's killing "a cowardly terrorist act".

"We condemn in the strongest terms this barbaric Zionist aggression and targeting of residential buildings," Hamas said in a statement.

Palestinian Authority

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas offered his "deep condolences" to Lebanon for the deaths of Nasrallah and civilians, who "fell as a result of the brutal Israeli aggression", according to a statement from his office.

Huthis

The Iran-backed Yemeni rebels, who have been firing on ships in the Red Sea in solidarity with Hamas, said in a statement that Nasrallah's killing "will increase the flame of sacrifice, the heat of enthusiasm, the strength of resolve" against Israel, with their leader vowing Nasrallah's death "will not be in vain".

Turkey

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose country maintains diplomatic relations with Israel but who has been a sharp critic of its offensive in Gaza, said on X that Lebanon was being subjected to a "genocide", without referring directly to Nasrallah.

Cuba

In a post on X, Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel called the killing a "cowardly targeted assassination" that "seriously threatens regional and global peace and security, for which Israel bears full responsibility with the complicity of the United States."

Argentina

Argentine President Javier Milei reposted on X a message from a member of his council of economic advisers, David Epstein, who hailed the killing.

"Israel eliminated one of the greatest contemporary murderers. Responsible, among others, for the cowardly attacks in #ARG," it said. "Today the world is a little freer".

Saudi Arabia

Saudi foreign minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud told the UN that "this escalation will have... negative repercussions for the entire region".

"We call upon all parties to show wisdom and to show restraint in order to avoid a true war from breaking out in the region."

Venezuela

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro expressed solidarity with Nasrallah and Lebanon.

"They want to justify it, but to assassinate him, they attacked buildings, housing estates and killed hundreds of people. There's a word for this: crime."​

 

[Lulldapull]

Hezb is intact. Just assassination of some leaders. Iran just has to reevaluate the situation going forward. This is not a show stopper. Iran won’t back down unless the country gets invaded by the west, like all the other Muslim countries are who can’t even mumble anything publicly.

 

[Vsdoc]

The issue here is the incessant backing of Israel by the west against Iran. Iran will not relent and fight the west for its share and take. This ain’t no religious war by any stretch of the imagination. Irani mulla are hardcore Persian nationalists.

It’s Iran vs the west for the control of the region. Plain n simple.

We need to watch out for which country next Iran will take over now. Is it Sudan? Or is it Ethiopia? Or is it Bahrain? Or is it goin be Afghanistan?

Persian nationalism or Pan Persian Nationalism as its commonly called in the west, is greatly misunderstood. By Iranians as well as non Iranians, including you apparently.

How can the Mullas be Persian nationalists when many of them are not ... Persian.

Velayat e Faqih is not a Persian nationalism paradigm. Its an IR one.

This is a highly nuanced topic, dunno if it fits here on a Bangladeshi sub forum. Or what its even doing here in the first place.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Lulldapull]

Persian nationalism or Pan Persian Nationalism as its commonly called in the west, is greatly misunderstood. By Iranians as well as non Iranians, including you apparently.

How can the Mullas be Persian nationalists when many of them are not ... Persian.

Velayat e Faqih is not a Persian nationalism paradigm. Its an IR one.

This is a highly nuanced topic, dunno if it fits here on a Bangladeshi sub forum. Or what its even doing here in the first place.

Cheers, Doc

Doc I always wanted to ask you that when the shah was there for 40 odd years and they made him Arya Mehr and the most powerful man in the entire Middle East and the US favored him even more than Israel back then.

He had whatever he wanted, anything he wished for……

Even then the Iranians threw him out!

This is the real dichotomy of reason.

Iran was the most powerful and most influential back then, and lo n behold it still is the most powerful and far more influential today.

This makes no sense!

I’ve told you before…….irani pagal hain. Ain’t nothing good enough bhai…..aap kuch bhee kar lo.

Iran is a fatalist culture, just like the hillbilly.

Incidentally one hillbilly friend of mine quipped recently that Pezeshkian looks like us. How could he be Muslim?…..

 

[Vsdoc]

Doc I always wanted to ask you that when the shah was there for 40 odd years and they made him Arya Mehr and the most powerful man in the entire Middle East and the US favored him even more than Israel back then.

He had whatever he wanted, anything he wished for……

Even then the Iranians threw him out!

This is the real dichotomy of reason.

Iran was the most powerful and most influential back then, and lo n behold it still is the most powerful and far more influential today.

This makes no sense!

I’ve told you before…….irani pagal hain. Ain’t nothing good enough bhai…..aap kuch bhee kar lo.

Iran is a fatalist culture, just like the hillbilly.

Incidentally one hillbilly friend of mine quipped recently that Pezeshkian looks like us. How could he be Muslim?…..

The Shah or any other personality is not going to change Iran. The Persian people have a genetic God switch. Its happened once. It will happen again.

Iran has a history of monarchy and centralized power. Iran does empires. It does not do kingdoms, like India for example.

When Iran switches, its empire switches. Including all its satrapies. For 500 years Zoroastrianism was the state religion of Rome.

I hate to say this, because 1) I know you are Muslim, and 2) I know it will mean a great bloodletting of my own bloodlines, but I cannot shake this feeling of foreboding that is hanging over me like a dark cloud, over the last decade and a half, that a massive avenging fire, a hungry fire, is headed towards engulfing the middle east. Specifically Iran.

It will be a cataclysmic epochal event not different to Al Qadissiya.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Lulldapull]

The Shah or any other personality is not going to change Iran. The Persian people have a genetic God switch. Its happened once. It will happen again.

Iran has a history of monarchy and centralized power. Iran does empires. It does not do kingdoms, like India for example.

When Iran switches, its empire switches. Including all its satrapies. For 500 years Zoroastrianism was the state religion of Rome.

I hate to say this, because 1) I know you are Muslim, and 2) I know it will mean a great bloodletting of my own bloodlines, but I cannot shake this feeling of foreboding that is hanging over me like a dark cloud, over the last decade and a half, that a massive avenging fire, a hungry fire, is headed towards engulfing the middle east. Specifically Iran.

It will be a cataclysmic epochal event not different to Al Qadissiya.

Cheers, Doc

One thing is for sure doc…..Semitic religion is a done deal bhai.

Sub khatam!

We need to be very careful about this unfolding drama in our country or we’re going to Balkanize in short order.

Without Islam we’re not going to survive and you know it.

Our establishment is still secular and they promote this culture of religion because the alternative is Balkanization bhai.

It’s the same in most other Muslim countries and I’m telling you if it’s not promoted then theys goin be gone within a few weeks or months.

I wonder if the US is talking to Iran behind the scenes on the situ.

Iran hasn’t lost anything yet…..the war is on like donkey Kong…..no problem there, but I know that I’ve yet to meet a religious Irani person.

At their core, they’re still Zartosht…I see it. I know lots of em…..totally secular bhai, but they can’t drop the act, or the millions of proxies will all get disillusioned.

Good luck finding millions willing to give their lives for you then.

You need to understand the situation Irans always in.

If you pledge allegiance…..they’ll back you. Don’t matter your religion. It’s just been like this for almost 3 millennia.

Iran chhorray ga nahi Israel ko ab, cuz now it’s a matter of honor.

 

[TheNewb77]