[🇮🇷] Iran VS Israel

Sharma Ji said:

Can attest ! I met a wandering bunch of minstrel hippie type Iranis some seasons ago, great band, good exotic Oud and Iranian harps etc things they were carrying, fusion with rock and western.. some among them were diaspora crew, some were proper locals fropm Tehran or wherever else inside.

Ekdum full liberal, even if some of their songs were maybe mazhabi (I think, don't speak farsi)

Good people, is mulla regime ko girana hai but, so that common sense good people can take over, again.

Click to expand...

Oh bhai if you bring the shah back right now into Iran, their foreign policy won’t change at all.

Iran won’t accept anyone sitting above it in the region.

Mulla regime same same as Shah, just cosmetic differences.

Black n white TV vs Color Tv type of diff, but da same show on.

Lulldapull said:

Oh bhai if you bring the shah back right now into Iran, their foreign policy won’t change at all.

Iran won’t accept anyone sitting above it in the region.

Mulla regime same same as Shah, just cosmetic differences.

Black n white TV vs Color Tv type of diff, but da same show on.

Click to expand...

Yes but the Shah actually was on the brink of kick starting a return to roots of the Zoroastrians, spearheaded first by their (our) business houses.

Vsdoc said:

Yes but the Shah actually was on the brink of kick starting a return to roots of the Zoroastrians, spearheaded first by their (our) business houses.

Click to expand...

They were Shi'ites too but, the Shah's lot.. just not hard-core mullahs.

Sharma Ji said:

They were Shi'ites too but, the Shah's lot.. just not hard-core mullahs.

Click to expand...

Eventually that would be a great medium.

Less hard coreness.

Jisko jo follow karna hai karo. Doosre ke choice par usko maaro kaaro mat.

Let the chips fall where they may then.

Eventually then Zoroastrians from India and Iran can intermarry peacefully and the couples settle in either country. With extended families spread across both. Easy aana jaana. Cultural and commercial and blood ties.

But all that went for a toss with the mullas.

Ir

Vsdoc said:

Eventually that would be a great medium.

Less hard coreness.

Jisko jo follow karna hai karo. Doosre ke choice par usko maaro kaaro mat.

Let the chips fall where they may then.

Eventually then Zoroastrians from India and Iran can intermarry peacefully and the couples settle in either country. With extended families spread across both. Easy aana jaana. Cultural and commercial and blood ties.

But all that went for a toss with the mullas.

Click to expand...

A

Vsdoc said:

Eventually that would be a great medium.

Less hard coreness.

Jisko jo follow karna hai karo. Doosre ke choice par usko maaro kaaro mat.

Let the chips fall where they may then.

Eventually then Zoroastrians from India and Iran can intermarry peacefully and the couples settle in either country. With extended families spread across both. Easy aana jaana. Cultural and commercial and blood ties.

But all that went for a toss with the mullas.

Click to expand...

Irani Zoro global diaspora being snobs ?

Desi ones are 2nd tier... dalit type scene ?

Sharma Ji said:

Ir

A

Irani Zoro global diaspora being snobs ?

Desi ones are 2nd tier... dalit type scene ?

Click to expand...

Its just the opposite.

The centre of ultra conservative orthodoxy of blood and male/female (priesthood, conversion rights of different gender Zoroastrian parent progeny, etc.) is all India based.

India is the center of world Zoroastrianism.

With 8 of the 9 major Atash Behram fires housed here.

The shift of power happened around the 16th century.

Coinciding with Iran's conversion from Sunni to Shia Islam.

The Iranian wing since then in all matters of the religion has always been the junior arm, looking to the Indian priesthood for guidance.

Till the 16th century it was the opposite.

Indian priests would send out scrolls with their questions to Iran.

Across months, even years, the replies, un the form of detailed Riyavats, would come back from the Iranian high priests.

These form one of the backbones of the uninterrupted religion. That has been passed down by word of mouth across centuries and many generations if the Magii.

Added to that is the freedom, social status and affluence of the Parsis compared to their Irani brethren.

Across centuries we have helped them with money and social support, in the face of overt religious hostility. Many such Indians have made a mark in Iran, fighting for the rights of their Irani Zarathushtis living in Iran, under often terrible conditions. Often helping young ones get married to Parsis in India and move here, with full support of the community in the firm of money, a job, and housing in a posh Parsi baug (gated colony).

I suppose also because it's easier being Zoro here, in our inclusive type Dharmi land.

Mullas be hard-core and uncompromising in their Mullaness..

Baaki sab heathen log, outside the fold, dalit style.

Sharma Ji said:

I suppose also because it's easier being Zoro here, in our inclusive type Dharmi land.

Mullas be hard-core and uncompromising in their Mullaness..

Baaki sab heathen log, outside the fold, dalit style.

Click to expand...

Exactly what I said.

Here we are the cream.

There we are dalits/marassis.

No, I was talking about the diaspora... in Iran proper toh the poor dears are kinda screwed.

But then western ones also shifted there with roots in India.

Full privileged scene hai, honorary bamman status ! And no gareebi, bhai wah !.. hum bc gareeb mar rahe

Sharma Ji said:

No, I was talking about the diaspora... in Iran proper toh the poor dears are kinda screwed.

But then western ones also shifted there with roots in India.

Full privileged scene hai, honorary bamman status ! And no gareebi, bhai wah !.. hum bc gareeb mar rahe

Click to expand...

Diaspora big time look to us bro.

Or they will lose everything inside a generation.

There is a huge clamor for a proper Atash Behram in the US.

There are more Zoroastrians in the US (only) now than left in India.

Dekho.

Simply put, the position of India and the Indian religion for world Zoroastrianism is the same as it is for world Hinduism.

The fountainhead.

The motherlode.

Vsdoc said:

Simply put, the position of India and the Indian religion for world Zoroastrianism is the same as it is for world Hinduism.

The fountainhead.

The motherlode.

Click to expand...

Inshallah, long and forever may it remain so...

Kidhar nahi jane ka... yehi hai ghar

Slowly by slowly full Pakistan bhi annex karne ka... then on to Iran

Jai Sri Atash Behram !

Bammans in Karbala ki bhi toh ek story hai... can't recall exactly what but hai kuch scene.

Sharma Ji said:

Slowly by slowly full Pakistan bhi annex karne ka... then on to Iran

Jai Sri Atash Behram !

Bammans in Karbala ki bhi toh ek story hai... can't recall exactly what but hai kuch scene.

Click to expand...

You cannot annex your ancestral father (Iran).

You can only return to it.

@Lulldapull aap bhi dekhein

@Vsdoc ko to pata hi hoga