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India ships first Akash air defence missile system battery to Armenia​

Manufactured by Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL), each battery of Akash weapon system is accompanied by a single Rajendra 3D passive electronically scanned array radar and four launchers with three missiles each.
Medium-range mobile surface-to-air missile defence system Akash at an airbase


Medium-range mobile surface-to-air missile defence system Akash at an airbase(File Photo)
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NEW DELHI: India marks another milestone in its defence export as it shipped the first Akash weapon system battery to Armenia. This is the second missile system to have been exported.

The Akash system, developed by the Defence Research and Development Organization is a surface-to-air missile (SAM) which can hit targets like fighter jets, missiles (cruise, air-to-surface), drones and other aerial assets to a range of 25km.

Manufactured by Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL), each battery of Akash weapon system is accompanied by a single Rajendra 3D passive electronically scanned array radar and four launchers with three missiles each, all of which are interlinked.

Secretary Defence Production in the ministry of Defence, Sanjeev Kumar “flagged off the 1st Akash Weapon System Battery to a Friendly Foreign Country.”

“This event reflects India’s growing capabilities in defence technology and manufacturing,” Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) said on Monday.

As the TNIE reported the Union Cabinet approved the export of the Akash Missile System in December 2020.


Defence Minister Rajnath Singh had said, however, the missile version of Akash to be exported will be different from the system introduced into the Indian armed forces. Defence Minister Singh highlighted that the missile system has over 96 per cent indigenous components.

The missile was inducted into the Indian Air Force in 2014 and in the Indian Army in 2015.

In 2022, Armenia inked a deal with India to procure 15 Akash missile systems worth around Rs 6,000 crore. It must be noted that Armenia has become the first foreign country to buy this missile system.

Also, in 2022, India had announced another major defence export deal with the Philippines for the supply of the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile, making it the country's first major defense export order.

As first reported by TNIE, the Philippines received the first batch of BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles in April this year, marking the culmination of India's first major defence export deal.

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India ships first Akash air defence missile system battery to Armenia

NEW DELHI: India marks another milestone in its defence export as it shipped the first Akash weapon system battery to Armenia. This is the second missile system
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Armenia Orders Second Batch of Indian ATAGS, Bolstering Military Capabilities​

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By Loktej English Team
On 07 Mar 2024 20:10:28​
Armenia Orders Second Batch of Indian ATAGS, Bolstering Military Capabilities



New Delhi, March 7 : Armenia, locked in a territorial dispute with neighboring Azerbaijan, has significantly ramped up its military acquisitions. Following the purchase of six Advanced Towed Artillery Gun Systems (ATAGS) from India in 2023, Armenia has placed a second major order for 84 additional units, bringing its total ATAGS holdings to 90. This move comes after Armenia also acquired Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launchers from India earlier. The development signifies India's growing success in securing foreign orders for its indigenous defense equipment.

Friendly nation Armenia signed a contract worth US$155.5 million with Indian defense company Kalyani Strategic Systems Limited for the supply of 155mm/39 caliber artillery guns. The ATAGS, developed by a consortium of Indian firms, is a 155mm/52 caliber howitzer designed for enhanced firepower and mobility. The deal follows Armenia's initial order of six ATAGS units in 2023, with deliveries expected to be completed within three years. The latest acquisition will equip the Armenian army with a total of 90 ATAGS, significantly boosting its artillery capabilities.
Armenia's growing military hardware portfolio extends beyond artillery, encompassing missiles, advanced helicopters, and various surveillance and defense systems. In September 2023, Armenia placed a $245 million order with India for missiles, rockets, and ammunition, including the Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher system. This collaboration marks a new chapter in India's defense export endeavors.
India's partnership with Armenia extends beyond recent deals, with a 2020 agreement for the supply of four Swati Weapon Locating Radars (WLRs) to Armenia. These radars, designed to detect and track enemy artillery fire, have proven effective in safeguarding Indian borders. The ongoing defense cooperation between India and Armenia highlights their strategic partnership and India's growing footprint in the global arms market.

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ATAGS is that gun which has a world record of firing a specific type of round to longest distance. It is a deadly gun with great fire power. Armenia initially ordered 6 guns and tested it rigorously and impressed with its performance and order further 84 guns. this can be very effective against Azerbaijan in conflict.
 
Irans transporting all these Indian weapons to Armenia covertly to not raise any suspicion among the Azeris and it’s a great way to prevent its involvement in the Azeri/ Armenian conflict which is very bad optics for the Iranians. Helping a small friendly neighbor against another small friendly neighbor is not good policy.
 

Silent but resilient: India-Armenia defence cooperation is a game changer in South Caucasus​

Opinion by Vimal Harsh
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Armenia, a country in the Caucasus region of West Asia, has chosen to induct the Tajan 155mm towed artillery gun system that has been jointly developed by India and France. This move strengthens India's position as a major defence partner for Armenia’s military modernisation. India has been supplying advanced guns, rockets, radars, and missile systems to the landlocked nation in the last few years.


In November 2023, Armenia received the first supplies of launchers and associated equipment of multi-barrel rocket launchers, Pinaka, valued at $250 million. Additionally, Armenia had ordered 15 Akash missile systems in 2022, worth $720 million, a consignment of which was delivered last November.

Armenia has emerged as India's top defence export destination, after the US and France. The Trajan artillery system, developed by Bharat Forge and Nexter (a French weapons manufacturer), offers superior accuracy, mobility, and firepower, making it an ideal choice for the terrains of a country facing threats from its neighbourhood.

The Second Nagorno-Karabakh War in 2020 and the subsequent Azerbaijani offensive of 2023 have been an eye-opener for Armenia. In the former, the 44-day-long war resulted in Azerbaijan gaining control over 72 per cent of the territory of the breakaway state of Artsakh and a defeat of Armenia; in the latter, Azerbaijan gained control over the whole of Nagorno-Karabakh. These circumstances underscored Armenia's need for modernising its defence sector and choosing the alternatives.


Armenia, a Christian country, found itself compromised on having been overly dependent on Russia for its defence needs. While Muslim-majority Azerbaijan received support from Turkey, a middle power anxious to ‘regain’ leadership of the Islamic world.

Consequently, Armenia took a West-ward turn, forging close relations with the US and EU as Russia's closeness grew with Azerbaijan and Turkey. Remarkably, Iran supports Armenia, a Christian country, supported by the US! (Iran supported Armenia diplomatically, particularly in the context of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict). Geopolitics in the 21st century for you!

And India, with its growing defence production sector and strategic interest in the Eurasian region, became Armenia's natural choice. Reportedly, India's defence production has gone up 2.6 times since Financial Year 2015. New Delhi has set a goal of increasing defence exports to ₹50,000 crore ($6 billion) by 2028-29, which seems well achievable.


Both India and Armenia have become crucial partners. New Delhi has been a trusted supplier of small arms, ammunition, and other light weaponry and has fit Yerevan’s equations for arms diversification. Armenia’s military supplies have been heavily dependent on Russia, and the changing geopolitical realities and experiences in the last couple of years have underlined the challenges of it, particularly in the context of Russia’s engagements in Ukraine and changing geopolitical equations in the South Caucasus and West Asia.

For India this purchase signifies expanding defense export markets and growing influence in the South Caucasus and Central Asia—an expanded neighborhood of India with historical ties, but now mostly covered up under the power equations of Russia, China, and Turkey.

The ties between India and Armenia are crucial to balancing Turkish influence in the region, which is mutually beneficial to both nations. Turkey’s close ties with Azerbaijan have been a constant concern for Armenia. Meanwhile, Turkey under the presidency of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has pan-Islamic ambitions, which include warm relations with Pakistan and advocacy of the Kashmir issue overlooking growing Islamic fundamentalism in the region and Pakistan’s use of terror as an instrument to further its interests, particularly against India, and India's integral part—Kashmir.

Turkey's closeness with post-Sheikh Hasina Bangladesh has also been growing, and the nexus between Ankara and Islamabad now also includes Dhaka. Recently, in the second week of January, a Turkish delegation led by the country’s trade minister, Omer Bolat, met Bangladesh’s chief advisor, Muhammad Yunus, and discussed various issues of importance for both countries, such as defence, trade, and technology sharing.

Beyond all of these, Russia’s ongoing defence ties with Armenia are unlikely to be disrupted, as Armenia's strategic location remains vital to Russian interests in the region. Armenia is also a key member of the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO), and Moscow continues to influence Armenia’s security policies. Having robust defence ties with India fits this equation as well, as India and Russia have been historical partners.

But there is still a lot left to be done; the partnership must not be limited to defence supply and purchase; it should expand to areas such as intelligence sharing, cyber defence, and joint military training so that a broader strategic alignment against common challenges, ranging from regional security threats to the evolving global balance of power, can be forged.

The Indo-Armenian cooperation will not just be a military partnership in the Caucasus region but will have geopolitical implications beyond, becoming a cornerstone of regional stability in an increasingly unpredictable world. As Sun Tzu says in The Art of War: "In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity".

Views expressed in the above piece are personal and solely those of the author. They do not necessarily reflect Firstpost’s views.

 

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Krishna with Flute said:
Many Armenians consider themselves Indian. They believe that both the countries were connected before the land separated due to some geographical event.
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Wow!

This is not borne out by my conversations with US-based Armenians. Have you met a lot of Armenians?

LA has the largest global diaspora of Armenians (Glendale area) and I have a few as my friends. I love Armenian cuisine, been invited to a few of their weddings as well.

They consider themselves white - essentially; and are a very influential group socially and politically in the US West Coast.

Not that it matters really.

Model Arsine Misiryan is Armenian origin person. Where is the Indian in her?

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Krishna with Flute said:
The ties between India and Armenia are crucial to balancing Turkish influence in the region, which is mutually beneficial to both nations. Turkey’s close ties with Azerbaijan have been a constant concern for Armenia. Meanwhile, Turkey under the presidency of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has pan-Islamic ambitions, which include warm relations with Pakistan and advocacy of the Kashmir issue overlooking growing Islamic fundamentalism in the region and Pakistan’s use of terror as an instrument to further its interests, particularly against India, and India's integral part—Kashmir.......
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Krishna with Flute said:
Turkey's closeness with post-Sheikh Hasina Bangladesh has also been growing, and the nexus between Ankara and Islamabad now also includes Dhaka. Recently, in the second week of January, a Turkish delegation led by the country’s trade minister, Omer Bolat, met Bangladesh’s chief advisor, Muhammad Yunus, and discussed various issues of importance for both countries, such as defence, trade, and technology sharing.
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India cannot keep up with Turkish technology and weapons which is home-grown and India's defense sector is mostly import-dependent.

The Turks are at least ten years ahead of India in terms of defense tech and are a part of NATO to boot with access to any Western defense tech they want.

Turkey was a PARTNER in the F-35 program and has developed the KAAN 5th generation fighter on its own. India's 5th Gen fighter is still on paper.

If Indians want to play with the Turks (I can't fathom why), the Turks will make Indian life extra difficult.

India has no business playing in Turkish backyard. This Modi has lost his mind. The Chutzpah....

@LegionnairE your thoughts.
 
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Bilal9 said:
India cannot keep up with Turkish technology and weapons which is home-grown and India's defense sector is mostly import-dependent.

The Turks are at least ten years ahead of India in terms of defense tech and are a part of NATO to boot with access to any Western defense tech they want.

Turkey was a PARTNER in the F-35 program and has developed the KAAN 5th generation fighter on its own. India's 5th Gen fighter is still on paper.

If Indians want to play with the Turks (I can't fathom why), the Turks will make Indian life extra difficult.

India has no business playing in Turkish backyard. This Modi has lost his mind. The Chutzpah....

@LegionnairE your thoughts.
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Partner in F-35 by just funding without any technological contribution. There was a news that US will give substandard F35 because of emerging proximity of Turkey with Russia. Yes, they had some technology access because of being a NATO country. Soon as its proximity with Russia increased, it was deprived from many technologies. Example of this was that it wanted to make a chopper like LCH and supply it to Pakistan. US refused to provide Engine and Turkey couldn't make it.
 
Bilal9 said:
Wow!

This is not borne out by my conversations with US-based Armenians. Have you met a lot of Armenians?

LA has the largest global diaspora of Armenians (Glendale area) and I have a few as my friends. I love Armenian cuisine, been invited to a few of their weddings as well.

They consider themselves white - essentially; and are a very influential group socially and politically in the US West Coast.

Not that it matters really.

Model Arsine Misiryan is Armenian origin person. Where is the Indian in her?

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I have posted many references in this thread if you have a time to read it.
 
Krishna with Flute said:
Partner in F-35 by just funding without any technological contribution. There was a news that US will give substandard F35 because of emerging proximity of Turkey with Russia. Yes, they had some technology access because of being a NATO country. Soon as its proximity with Russia increased, it was deprived from many technologies. Example of this was that it wanted to make a chopper like LCH and supply it to Pakistan. US refused to provide Engine and Turkey couldn't make it.
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I have no information to verify these claims one way or another.

Maybe brother @LegionnairE kindly can.
 
ThunderCat said:
Not really. They are indigenous to the Caucuses. They might have been under Persian occupied for centuries but they are not ethnic Persians are classed with any Iranic group.
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The Caucasus is an interesting area, with many ethnicities. Here is one map showing Circassian population (Sunni Muslims) in Green, who live in the North Caucasus mountains, north of where the Georgians and Abkhazians live. Ethnically they are all white, very tall and very fair looking.

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Their culture is very unique and very different from each other. They were part of Turkey and Turkish politics from many years ago. Here is one of their dances - observe the moves.

 
Mrloveday said:
If I quote multiple messages, I can find the reply button.

Feels laggy and refreshes on its own.

It's ugly and complicated.

A simple theme of old pdf would do wonders.
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steppeWolff said:
Weed is more like a recovery drug for me. I workout hard. 3 days of strength training and 2 days of 5km runs. Weed after makes me eat fck loads and rest well.

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ThunderCat said:
Not really. They are indigenous to the Caucuses. They might have been under Persian occupied for centuries but they are not ethnic Persians are classed with any Iranic group.
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Bilal9 said:
The Caucasus is an interesting area, with many ethnicities. Here is one map showing Circassian population (Sunni Muslims) in Green, who live in the North Caucasus mountains, north of where the Georgians and Abkhazians live. Ethnically they are all white, very tall and very fair looking.

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Their culture is very unique and very different from each other. They were part of Turkey and Turkish politics from many years ago. Here is one of their dances - observe the moves.

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Many Armenians in Lebanon. Also many who intermixed with Arabs
 
Bilal9 said:
The Caucasus is an interesting area, with many ethnicities. Here is one map showing Circassian population (Sunni Muslims) in Green, who live in the North Caucasus mountains, north of where the Georgians and Abkhazians live. Ethnically they are all white, very tall and very fair looking.

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Their culture is very unique and very different from each other. They were part of Turkey and Turkish politics from many years ago. Here is one of their dances - observe the moves.

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Turks don't belong in the Caucasus cuz they not Caucasian.

Nobody wants these Asians in the Caucasus where Persian, Kurd, Armenian, Georgians live.
 
Lulldapull said:
Turks don't belong in the Caucasus cuz they not Caucasian.

Nobody wants these Asians in the Caucasus where Persian, Kurd, Armenian, Georgians live.
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I've seen a Circassian express irritation about Iranians for trying to appropriate their identity. I've also seen a Chechen annoyed how people label their language "turkic." And another express negativity towards Turks for stealing their genes.

But plenty of Turks/Iranians including Kurds from both sides suffer from this Caucasian-wannabe syndrome.
 
Bilal9 said:
The Caucasus is an interesting area, with many ethnicities. Here is one map showing Circassian population (Sunni Muslims) in Green, who live in the North Caucasus mountains, north of where the Georgians and Abkhazians live. Ethnically they are all white, very tall and very fair looking.
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Not necessarily too fair. Their phenotypes are different from Europeans on average. Their skins tones/hair color are more like Southern Euros.

Although some ethnicities can indeed be super white such as the Lezghins. No wonder some delusional Turkish & Iranian citizens (including Turkish/Iranians Kurds & Mazendaranis) want to claim them.
 
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ThunderCat said:
I've seen a Circassian express irritation about Iranians for trying to appropriate their identity. I've also seen a Chechen annoyed how people label their language "turkic." And another express negativity towards Turks for stealing their genes.

But plenty of Turks/Iranians including Kurds from both sides suffer from this Caucasian-wannabe syndrome.
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Bhai 200 years ago all these Caucasian republics were citizens of the Safavid empire. The issue is that when Czar Nicholas signed these treaties of Golestan and Turkmanchy and half a dozen others, there was a clause in it that these lands be returned to Persia upon the completion of the period (a century).

Problem now is neither czarist Russia is there, nor Safavid Persia, and look who lives in those territories today.
 
Lulldapull said:
Bhai 200 years ago all these Caucasian republics were citizens of the Safavid empire. The issue is that when Czar Nicholas signed these treaties of Golestan and Turkmanchy and half a dozen others, there was a clause in it that these lands be returned to Persia upon the completion of the period (a century).

Problem now is neither czarist Russia is there, nor Safavid Persia, and look who lives in those territories today.
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Correct- but that doesn't make them Persians or even Iranians unless they're Iranian citizens. Just like we were under British rule, but that has not changed our race.
 
Israel Person said:
Azerbaijan is the friend
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India too used to consider Azerbaijan a friend, but their Islamic brotherhood prevailed over the years old friendship and they started supporting Pakistan on Kashmir issue only because of Islamic brotherhood. Now they say that Azerbaijan is ready to purchase as much weapons as Armenia buys from India. India refused.
 
Krishna with Flute said:
India too used to consider Azerbaijan a friend, but their Islamic brotherhood prevailed over the years old friendship and they started supporting Pakistan on Kashmir issue only because of Islamic brotherhood. Now they say that Azerbaijan is ready to purchase as much weapons as Armenia buys from India. India refused.
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Most of the mull world stays out of the Kashmir dispute, for 2 reasons:

That India is home to the largest population (170 odd million) in a non Islamic country.

And also that they're doing serious business with India, at the least the Gulfie lot.

Meanwhile Pak still busy kicking the dead horse of the barely-issue that is Kashmir.

Azeris are nobodys, not worth bothering about.
 
Armenians, we used to have a community in Kalkatta, there was a thread about em here, or maybe at the old place.. now sadly, numbering only in their hundreds, or the lower thousands.. something like that.

Internationally, we have a beef with Paxtanis over Kashmir, and China.. land disputes, both. Rest of the world isn't our concern... Gaza-Israel, Russia - Ukraine etc ..

Why wade into other peoples' matters ? .. We don't talk about Taiwan either, and China reciprocate and stay mum on Kashmir..

simple scene, bhai, apna sambhalo bc.. dont go around poking in others' business.. humko kya lena dena ? Marne do saalon ko !
 
Sharma Ji said:
Most of the mull world stays out of the Kashmir dispute, for 2 reasons:

That India is home to the largest population (170 odd million) in a non Islamic country.

And also that they're doing serious business with India, at the least the Gulfie lot.

Meanwhile Pak still busy kicking the dead horse of the barely-issue that is Kashmir.

Azeris are nobodys, not worth bothering about.
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You missed one thing. They consider subcontinent Muslims substandard Muslims. They see subcontinent Muslims as converted who wear Salwar on the edge of sword. Talwar ke Zor par Salwar Pahen ne wale log. Aisa Manate hai wo log.
 
Sharma Ji said:
Armenians, we used to have a community in Kalkatta, there was a thread about em here, or maybe at the old place.. now sadly, numbering only in their hundreds, or the lower thousands.. something like that.

Internationally, we have a beef with Paxtanis over Kashmir, and China.. land disputes, both. Rest of the world isn't our concern... Gaza-Israel, Russia - Ukraine etc ..

Why wade into other peoples' matters ? .. We don't talk about Taiwan either, and China reciprocate and stay mum on Kashmir..

simple scene, bhai, apna sambhalo bc.. dont go around poking in others' business.. humko kya lena dena ? Marne do saalon ko !
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Some border issues with Nepal & tensions with Bangladesh.
Azerbaijan might be a "nobody" as long as their energy deposits remain untapped.
 
Dogun18 said:
Turkey is a secret friend of Israel many people say. Although Erdogan has a lot of responsibilities, he has been called out for not blocking the oil supply from Azerbaijan that goes through Turkey to Israel. It more or less funded their war.
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I wouldn't call it friend but a mutual interest.
Erdogan has been openly anti-Israel which is probably what prompted Israeli historians to write books such as The Thirty Year Genocide
 

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